Bava Batra 137

Chapter 137

א <big><strong>גמ׳</strong></big> מאי אבנים שהן לצרכה הכא תרגימו אבני דאכפא עולא אמר אבנים הסדורות לגדר והא תני ר' חייא אבנים צבורות לגדר תני סדורות
1 <b><i>GEMARA</i></b>. What is meant by STONES WHICH ARE FOR USE IN IT? They translated it here<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' In Babylon. ');"><sup>1</sup></span>
ב הכא תרגימו אבני דאכפא לר"מ דמתקנן אע"ג דלא מחתן לרבנן הוא דמחתן
2 as 'weight stones'.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Stones placed on the sheaves to keep them from being blown about by the wind. ');"><sup>2</sup></span>
ג ולעולא דאמר אבנים הסדורות לגדר לר"מ דמתקנן אע"ג דלא סדרן לרבנן הוא דסדרן:
3 'Ulla said that they are stones laid in order for making a fence. But has not R. Hiyya learned that they are stones piled up<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Even this making them part and parcel of the field. ');"><sup>3</sup></span>
ד ואת הקנים שבכרם שהן לצרכו: קנים מאי עבידתייהו אמרי דבי רבי ינאי קנים המחולקין שמעמידים תחת הגפנים לר"מ דמשפיין אע"ג דלא מוקמן לרבנן הוא דמוקמן:
4 for making a fence? — Read [instead of piled up] 'laid in order'.
ה ואת התבואה המחוברת לקרקע וכו': ואע"ג דמטאי למיחצד: ואת חיצת הקנים שפחותה מבית רובע: ואע"ג דאלימי:
5 [You say,] 'Here they translate "weight stones"'. According to R. Meir,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' R. Meir lays down (infra 78b) that the sale of a vineyard automatically includes the accessories of the vineyard, from which we infer that in all analogous cases R. Meir would include something that the Rabbis would exclude. Some of these things are now specified in connection with the Mishnah under discussion. ');"><sup>4</sup></span>
ו ואת השומירה שאינה עשויה בטיט: אע"ג דלא קביעא בארעא: ואת החרוב שאינו מורכב ואת בתולת השקמה: אע"ג דאלימי:
6 [this means] if they are ready for use even though they have not yet actually been used,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Lit., 'placed'. ');"><sup>5</sup></span>
ז אבל לא מכר את האבנים שאינן לצרכה: לר"מ דלא מתקנן לרבנן דלא מחתן
7 but according to the Rabbis only if they have been actually used.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Since only then do they become part and parcel of the field. ');"><sup>6</sup></span>
ח ולעולא דאמר אבנים הסדורות לגדר לר' מאיר דלא מתקנן לרבנן דלא סדרן:
8 If we take the view of 'Ulla that they are stones laid in order for making a fence, then according to R. Meir [it would be sufficient] if they are ready even though they have not been laid in order,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' R. Meir therefore is not in agreement with our Mishnah as interpreted by 'Ulla. ');"><sup>7</sup></span>
ט ולא את הקנים שבכרם שאינן לצרכו: לר' מאיר דלא משפיין לרבנן דלא מוקמן: ולא את התבואה התלושה מן הקרקע: ואע"ג דצריכא לארעא:
9 while according to the Rabbis they must have been laid in order.
י ולא את חיצת הקנים שהיא בית רובע: ואע"ג דקטיני א"ר חייא בר אבא א"ר יוחנן לא חיצת הקנים בלבד אלא אפילו ערוגה קטנה של בשמים ויש לה שם בפני עצמה אינה נמכרת עמה אמר רב פפא והוא דקרו לה וורדא דפלניא:
10 CANES<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' The Hebrew word is kanim, which usually means 'canes' or 'reeds' still growing in the ground. Hence the question of the Gemara. ');"><sup>8</sup></span>
יא ולא השומירה העשויה בטיט: ואע"ג דמחברא בארעא: (ולא את חרוב המורכב ולא סדן השקמה: ואע"ג דקטיני:)
11 WHICH ARE FOR USE IN THE VINEYARD. What are these canes for? — In the school of R. Jannai it was explained to mean canes which are placed under the vines [to support them]. According to R. Meir [they would be sold with the field] if they are peeled even though they have not yet been fixed, according to the Rabbis only if they have been fixed.
יב בעי רבי אלעזר מלבנות של פתחים מהו היכא דמחברי בטינא לא תיבעי לך דהא מחבר כי תיבעי לך דנקיטי בסיכי מאי תיקו
12 PRODUCE STILL ATTACHED TO THE SOIL. Even though it is ripe for cutting down.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' And though normally such corn is counted as already cut. ');"><sup>9</sup></span>
יג בעי רבי זירא מלבנות של חלונות מהו מי אמרינן לנוי בעלמא הוא דעבידי או דלמא כיון דמחברי מחברי תיקו
13 A CLUMP OF REEDS LESS THAN A BETH ROBA'. Even though they are thick.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Lit., 'strong'. ');"><sup>10</sup></span>
יד בעי רבי ירמיה מלבנות של כרעי המטה מהו כל היכא דמיטלטלי בהדה לא תיבעי לך דהא מיטלטלי כי תיבעי לך היכא דלא מיטלטלי מאי תיקו:
14 A HUT THAT IS NOT CEMENTED. Even though it is not fixed in the soil.
טו ולא את חרוב המורכב ולא סדן השקמה וכו':
15 A YOUNG CAROB AND A YOUNG SYCAMORE. Even though they are of good size.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Lit., 'strong'. ');"><sup>11</sup></span> BUT HE DOES NOT SELL THE STONES WHICH ARE NOT FOR USE IN IT. According to R. Meir [this is only] if they are not ready for use, but according to the Rabbis even if they simply have not yet been used. If we take the view of 'Ulla that they are stones laid in order for a fence, then according to R. Meir they are not sold only if they are not yet ready for use, but according to the Rabbis, even if they simply have not yet been laid in order.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' R. Meir lays down (infra 78b) that the sale of a vineyard automatically includes the accessories of the vineyard, from which we infer that in all analogous cases R. Meir would include something that the Rabbis would exclude. Some of these things are now specified in connection with the Mishnah under discussion. ');"><sup>4</sup></span> NOR THE CANES OF THE VINEYARD WHICH ARE NOT FOR USE IN IT. According to R. Meir this is if they are not peeled, but according to the Rabbis even if they simply are not yet fixed. NOR PRODUCE DETACHED FROM THE SOIL. Although it still requires to be left in the field.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' For drying. ');"><sup>13</sup></span> NOR A CLUMP OF REEDS OCCUPYING A BETH ROBA'. Even though the reeds are small. R. Hiyya b. Abba said in the name of R. Johanan: This does not apply only to a clump of reeds; even a small perfume bed if it has a name of its own is not included in the sale of the field.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' And so too with anything that is commonly known as something distinct from the field. ');"><sup>14</sup></span> R. Papa said: What we mean by this is that it is known as 'so-and-so's roses'. NOR A WATCHMAN'S HUT WHICH IS CEMENTED. Even though it is fixed in the ground.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' This does not make it part of the ground, because now it is practically a house. ');"><sup>15</sup></span> R. Eleazar asked: What is the rule regarding the frames of doors? Where they are fixed to the wall with cement there is no question [that they are sold with], since they are firmly attached.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' And therefore are reckoned as part of the house. ');"><sup>16</sup></span> The question arises only where they are connected with hooks. This question must stand over. R. Zera asked what was the rule regarding the frames of windows.<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' If attached to the wall with hooks. ');"><sup>17</sup></span> Do we say that they are purely for ornament,<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' And therefore not sold with the house. ');"><sup>18</sup></span> or do we say that after all they are attached? This question must [also] stand over. R. Jeremiah asked: What is the rule regarding the castors of the legs of a bed?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Pieces of wood placed under them to keep them from contact with the earth. ');"><sup>19</sup></span> Where they are moved with the bed of course the question does not arise, because they go along with it. Where there is room for question is where they are not moved with it. — This [also] must stand over. NOR THE FULL GROWN CAROB NOR THE CROPPED SYCAMORE.